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Motor and reducer

Part of the Drivetrain section. Motor + belt drive + reducer mounting and the primary vibration/torque input to the machine.

Introduction

This subassembly defines the motor/reducer selection, belt drive layout, and mounting/tensioning approach. It sets the drivetrain's radial loads (from belt tension), vibration into the frame, and the reducer output torque that drives the gear train.

Catalog links

Colour key & components

Key components; colours may differ between figures. Primary intent is to specify interfaces and what contractors must validate.

Colour(s)Component
Motor — WEG W21/W22 IE3 motor, product 13533507: 7.5 kW (10 hp), 50 Hz, 4-pole, rated speed 1460 rpm, rated torque ~49 N·m, 38 mm shaft.
V-belt drive — SPA belts; current concept uses 1:1 pulleys (170 mm pitch dia motor and reducer). Two belts planned. Center distance and tensioning method are TBD.
Reducer — Sumitomo Cyclo 6000 series; output speed target ~70 rpm (final ratio/model to be confirmed from catalog selection).

P6 motor/reducer CAD (Figures 1–2). Figure 3 is a reference photo from another machine showing a nut/standoff-style motor mount concept for inspiration only — not the P6 design.

Motor and reducer CAD 1
Motor and reducer CAD 2
Reference motor mount inspiration

Figure 1. Motor and reducer — P6 CAD.

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Additional context: Drivetrain main gallery.

Recommended figures (contractor clarity)

Discussion

Rough design & intent

Reference motor + reducer specs (50 Hz vs 60 Hz)

Some legacy specs were for 60 Hz markets. China baseline is 50 Hz. Reducer model numbers below are from a prior cost list and should be confirmed (some notes suggest 6145 vs 6165).

Item50 Hz (China baseline)60 Hz (reference)
MotorWEG W22, 10 hp, 4-pole, ~1470 rpm; 220/380/440 V 3-phase; IPW55; V5T vertical shaft downWEG W22, 10 hp, 4-pole, ~1760 rpm; 220/380/440 V 3-phase; IPW55; V5T vertical shaft down
ReducerSumitomo Cyclo Drive CWVJ-6165-21 (i≈21) targeting ~70 rpm; flanged, vertical, output shaft upwards (TBD)Sumitomo Cyclo Drive CWVJ-6165-25 (i≈25) targeting ~70 rpm; flanged, vertical, output shaft upwards (TBD)

Reference belt-drive calculation (from prior internal worksheet — must be validated)

The following values are copied from a prior internal calculation/worksheet for P6 870 (China, 50 Hz). They are provided as a starting point for contractors — do not assume they are correct. Contractor must re-check belt selection, power rating, wrap angle assumptions, tensioning method, and the resulting shaft/bearing radial loads.

Key worksheet outputs (Gates/ISO 4184 method reference)

ParameterWorksheet valueNotes / validation needed
Standard belt length1250 mmChosen closest to tentative length (~1214 mm). Confirm availability and pulley center distance tolerances.
Net kW per belt6.78 kWDepends on tables, life target, wrap angle, and corrections (arc/contact, length). Recompute for final geometry.
# belts required2Validate against duty cycle, service factor, life hours, and wrap angle; consider banded belts for shock/vibration.
Installation allowance25 mmMinimum center-distance decrease for install; if not possible, worksheet suggests idler/tensioner.
Static tension per belt~226 NStrongly dependent on wrap angle and tensioning method. Drives shaft/bearing radial loads.
Recommended deflection force (total)~18.5–27.5 NAs reported; confirm method and whether multiplied by belt count correctly.

Older manual calculation notes (even more tentative)

An older manual calc (notes only) assumed 3 banded belts, center distance ~344 mm, tangential belt force ~577 N, and a reported radial load on motor ~961 N. Treat these as rough placeholders; validate with final wrap angle, friction coefficient, tension ratio, and whether an idler is used.

Known issues & risks

DFM & manufacturing (China)

Belt specification — contractor support required

We want the contractor to lead belt selection and validation. Prior internal calculations exist but are not treated as correct; use them only as a starting point.

Questions for contractor

  1. Belt selection: Select the belt profile and belt count for the final pulley sizes and speed, using a defined service factor and life target. Provide the calculation basis (tables/standard) and show margins.
  2. Length and center distance: Select a standard belt length that is compatible with center distance ≤ 340.311 mm (tensioned) and provides enough slack/travel for installation without an idler. Specify required adjustment travel.
  3. Tension targets + procedure: Provide recommended static/installation tension (and a field procedure) compatible with our nut/standoff tensioning method (e.g., deflection force method, frequency method, etc.).
  4. Radial loads: Compute radial loads on motor and reducer shafts/bearings from belt tension across min/max tension, and confirm acceptability vs motor/reducer bearing ratings and expected misalignment.
  5. Locking + drift: Propose a locking strategy for the nut/standoff adjustment so belt tension and alignment do not drift under vibration (and define inspection/retension intervals).
  6. China sourcing: Provide belt and pulley sourcing options available in China (and acceptable substitutes), with lead times and recommended spares.
  7. Confirm the exact Cyclo 6000 model/ratio required for ~70 rpm output and provide mounting/lubrication requirements.
  8. Evaluate whether to specify a torque limiter / overload protection on the Cyclo (or an equivalent protection scheme) to protect downstream components. Provide recommended settings and trade-offs.
  9. Propose a practical lubrication/maintenance plan for the motor/belt/reducer: what is lubricated, recommended lubricant type, inspection interval, and how maintenance is performed safely in the pilot factory.
  10. Propose input and output shaft extension/adaptor design(s) (materials, fit classes, keying/splines, runout targets) and an assembly/inspection plan.
  11. Evaluate an alternative architecture: mount the motor in a conventional orientation and use a right-angle/angle gearbox to drive the vertical reducer input. Would this improve vibration, service, or safety? Provide trade-offs and sourcing options.
  12. Propose a guarding concept for the belt/pulleys that can be mounted on the back of the machine (what rails/brackets are needed and how it is removed for maintenance).

Interfaces and tolerances

Known interfaces and tolerances. Links go to related subsystems.

PartInterface / toleranceRelated
MotorWEG W21/W22 IE3, 7.5 kW, 1460 rpm rated; 38 mm shaft (confirm frame/mounting form from selected model)
V-belt driveSPA belts; 1:1 pulleys (170 mm pitch dia) concept; two belts planned; center distance and tensioning TBD
ReducerSumitomo Cyclo 6000 series; select ratio/model to achieve target output speed; confirm output shaft geometry and mounting
MountingMotor + reducer mount to drivetrain mount plate; alignment and stiffness requirements per Frame/DrivetrainDrivetrain mount plate

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